tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post2586830600171294190..comments2024-02-10T02:14:39.898-05:00Comments on Buckeye Surgeon: Lazar Greenfield's Cure for DepressionJeffrey Parks MD FACShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15650563299849196122noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-83766645881409249502011-06-01T11:55:03.419-04:002011-06-01T11:55:03.419-04:00Here's Mark Steyn's take on the hounding o...Here's Mark Steyn's take on the hounding of a remarkable man by hysterical females - and males. You should be ashemed of yourselves.<br /><br />http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/4089/28/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-66285208453965335042011-05-08T13:23:57.606-04:002011-05-08T13:23:57.606-04:00Did Greenfield say exactly where the best place to...Did Greenfield say exactly where the best place to deposit this semen actually is? Mouth, anus or vagina for best effects?Maniplemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-7541800736624625952011-05-02T05:47:28.191-04:002011-05-02T05:47:28.191-04:00Greenfield's contribution to the literature wa...Greenfield's contribution to the literature was nothing compared to another "leader" in surgery...American College of Surgery Regent Rene Lafrienere. Gosh plagiarizing an article on ethics tops them all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-42212428207946857452011-04-26T01:05:59.500-04:002011-04-26T01:05:59.500-04:00Oh Orac?...
By the way, I forgive you for your tho...Oh Orac?...<br />By the way, I forgive you for your thoughtless comment. Perhaps we should all show more forgiveness towards each other. Will you forgive me? How about Greenfield?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-85786107407204802812011-04-26T01:02:25.514-04:002011-04-26T01:02:25.514-04:00Actually Orac...I did read your post. Rather than...Actually Orac...I did read your post. Rather than discussing the ambiguity underlying the problem to which your piece addresses, I thought it would be fairer to focus on your 'troll' comment. After all, if Greenfield could be skewered for a bad joke, then you should be skewered for your name-calling. What does it matter what your post said when I can judge you by your off-the-cuff attack on me. Ironically, unlike Greenfield, you intended to offend, bully, and exclude. Don't worry, I won't be calling for your resignation, or try to destroy your hard- earned reputation. Just let me call it as I see it - you are a pompous fraud. Perhaps you should think deeper about what purpose your attacks serve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-17924953572200551242011-04-25T19:51:20.834-04:002011-04-25T19:51:20.834-04:00If Dr. Greenfield's surgical resident had writ...If Dr. Greenfield's surgical resident had written the moronic editorial, the resident would have been asked by Dr. Greenfield "Are you stupid or do you just not care?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-55948885064851901472011-04-25T13:03:10.213-04:002011-04-25T13:03:10.213-04:00"For such a bright guy, why do you resort to ..."For such a bright guy, why do you resort to name calling?"<br /><br />Uh, because I didn't, at least not in my post. My post analyzes the affair, discusses why Dr. Greenfield's post was sexist and tone deaf, and even dissects the study he cites as support. (Hint: It's not a very good study.)<br /><br />As for referring to the likes of you as "trolls," well, that's just calling it the way I see it.<br /><br />But, hey, if you didn't like my first post, you'll really hate my second one:<br /><br />http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/04/dr_greenfield_digs_himself_in_deeper.phpOrachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01370846202152605202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-78025699971343741282011-04-20T13:42:19.791-04:002011-04-20T13:42:19.791-04:00Land of the Free, eh?
I mean, you Americans are s...Land of the Free, eh?<br /><br />I mean, you Americans are so pathetic with your PC nonsense. (not to mention that you spend about two*three times as much per patient on medicine, yet have mostly worse health outcomes)<br /><br />Sure, the editorial wasn't funny, but I'd be willing to bet good money semen actually may have those properties. Pointing out that lesbians miss out, how is that homophobic?<br /><br />And it's actually a very old hat, this research...<br /><br />http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=an-ode-to-the-many-evolved-virtues-2010-09-22Outsidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-40464911618243205532011-04-20T08:59:50.444-04:002011-04-20T08:59:50.444-04:00For years, underlying feminist thought, was the no...For years, underlying feminist thought, was the notion that femininity held magical/superior powers to the masculine... That the all the power of Gaia was to be found in the pussy. Now, when scientific evidence suggests (rightly or wrongly) that the masculine holds some power not to be found in the feminine, all hell breaks loose. I can hear the calls already of the politically correct - 'hang 'em high!'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-37951614222512122162011-04-20T08:50:40.232-04:002011-04-20T08:50:40.232-04:00Hey Orac,
For such a bright guy, why do you resort...Hey Orac,<br />For such a bright guy, why do you resort to name calling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-54266741817004599102011-04-20T07:57:21.050-04:002011-04-20T07:57:21.050-04:00I wonder if an editor vetted his piece.I wonder if an editor vetted his piece.Michael Kirsch, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07555280388086931097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-2653384446772551302011-04-19T19:34:28.333-04:002011-04-19T19:34:28.333-04:00So when can we expect an article on the new gender...So when can we expect an article on the new gender specific, organic serotonin enhancer that requires no presecription?tom enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-13905692487803421932011-04-19T13:27:24.956-04:002011-04-19T13:27:24.956-04:00As a non-surgeon, my main question is: what does s...As a non-surgeon, my main question is: what does semen have to do with surgery? Follow-up: why would one write a Valentine's Day editorial for a surgical news weekly? Did he do one on witches for Halloween too? Oops, that would be condescending to women as well.<br /><br />Must have been his cyclical spell of testosterone poisoning...<br /><br />HappyBooker<br />MN LibrarianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-239288748042081252011-04-19T08:14:37.909-04:002011-04-19T08:14:37.909-04:00Hmmm. I wonder where Buckeye's post has been p...Hmmm. I wonder where Buckeye's post has been posted to bring the trolls out?<br /><br />BTW, thanks for reminding me of this story...<br /><br />http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/04/cluelessness_and_sexism_in_the_american.php<br /><br />:-)Orachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01370846202152605202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-50640377847139347692011-04-19T00:50:07.855-04:002011-04-19T00:50:07.855-04:00From my experiences, a deep calm and satisfaction ...From my experiences, a deep calm and satisfaction with the world is expressed by women after following the euphoric sensation of being satisfied by me and being filled with my ejaculate... By men too for that matter... Maybe what the critics of the doctor need is a dose of his medicineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-2080069887891943352011-04-18T21:58:02.440-04:002011-04-18T21:58:02.440-04:00Oh God, the floodgates are opening. This is gettin...Oh God, the floodgates are opening. This is getting really great. I'll pop the popcorn (awesome).<br /><br />-SCRNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-74317038652786477262011-04-18T21:47:32.072-04:002011-04-18T21:47:32.072-04:00It is so ridiculous that this surgeon felt pressur...It is so ridiculous that this surgeon felt pressured to resign after making a tongue-in-cheek reference to a serious scientific study. I do not find his bias to be "macho", as quoted in another article, when he is simply postulating on a possible scientific link between absorbing chemicals in semen and an improvement in women's mood. What if it turns out to be true? Does this then absolve the doctor of his "unfeminist" comments?<br /><br />This is another example of feminists beating their old dead horse, "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle". Perhaps there are myriad and magnificent complementary links between men and women owing to our co-evolution or our miraculous creation.<br /><br />A woman commentatorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-74138069124026945862011-04-18T20:48:15.267-04:002011-04-18T20:48:15.267-04:00I heard that Dr. Greenfield knew of five of his re...I heard that Dr. Greenfield knew of five of his residents who got free tattos but didn't report it, and this is the real reason the ACS is firing him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-82408121403882828782011-04-18T19:46:35.730-04:002011-04-18T19:46:35.730-04:00Dr Cook-
Are you serious? Greenfield as a persecu...Dr Cook-<br />Are you serious? Greenfield as a persecuted James Joycean figure, censored by tyrannical PC police?? I'm sorry but Dr Greenfield is no JD Salinger. He's not even Dane Cook in the humor category. Jokes where the punch line involves keywords like "semen" and "richly vascularized vagina" are DOOMED to the sound of crickets, unless you're like 13 years old. I mean come on, man. He published this puerile junk in the official newspaper of the ACS. That's just.....awful.<br /><br />Your letter, by the way, almost sounds like a parody of blinded sycophancy. No one has any problem with Dr Greenfield's contribution to the field of vascular surgery and academic surgery in general. His life's work and accomplishments remain untainted. But he used the bully pulpit of a national editorial forum to crack a few jokes about the Zoloftian prowess of SEMEN. I mean it's only a matter of time until Trojan starts to market a new brand of condom...the Greenfield Filter. Am i right am i right????Jeffrey Parks MD FACShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15650563299849196122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-78448247798505525622011-04-18T18:01:10.635-04:002011-04-18T18:01:10.635-04:00All I can offer is the e-mail that I just sent to ...All I can offer is the e-mail that I just sent to Dr. Greenfield:<br /><br />Dr. Greenfield,<br /><br />This morning I read with tremendous regret about the action by the College Board of Regents which occurred over the weekend. Evidently I had not been paying attention and had no idea such a tempest was brewing. I had missed the now infamous editorial in the News and requested a copy through Dr. Pellegrini but was refused. In order to learn what the fuss was about, I had to resort to the internet and was eventually successful in my search for the document. Actually, it didn't take long but I had hoped for more help from those whom I thought to be my colleagues.<br /><br />Let me first say what many others are afraid to admit. The essay was quite humorous and I had no problem getting the joke. That said, I also understand that the climate of political correctness that currently surrounds us simply will not tolerate any humor that even approaches the fringe of offensiveness. Because of that reality, I understand that you had no choice but to resign in order to put the better interest of the College above your own. You are to be admired for not allowing (or helping) the insanity to grow any larger than it has already.<br /><br />The thought that I'd like to offer you today is simply that the College will be a lesser institution in your absence. And those who attacked you and even those who failed to defend you missed a great opportunity to elevate their own stature. Though I have never met you, I have read many of your publications, heard you speak on numerous occasions and been acquainted with a number surgeons who were proud to have learned under your mentorship. In the end, these, among others will be the accomplishments by which you are ultimately judged.<br /><br />I can't help but think that a society paralyzed by correctness is a society in deep trouble. Who will the censors silence next? John Steinbeck, Ernest Hemmingway, J.D. Salinger, D.H. Lawrence, Jack London...and now Lazar Greenfield...you, sir, are in good company.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Randall G. Cook, MD, FACSUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11008964971790448099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-71749985133127999162011-04-18T17:28:28.712-04:002011-04-18T17:28:28.712-04:00Hey Buckeye, Was this study done with oral sex as ...Hey Buckeye, Was this study done with oral sex as well?? I am sure Sid and Frank want to know as well.Gary M. Levinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16205704913440150198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-38371195593647259522011-04-18T07:54:40.632-04:002011-04-18T07:54:40.632-04:00The picture looks a lot like a gray-haired Roy Sch...The picture looks a lot like a gray-haired Roy Scheider. I keep waiting for that smirk to turn serious and for him to start screaming for everyone to get out of the water.<br /><br />Dr. Goezinu (or can I call you Dick), I was going to take your comment seriously until I discovered that you actually read Drackman's blog. Based on the comments he leaves here, I'm sure it is well-written, coherent, and enlightening.<br /><br />On a more serious note, it is always disturbing when people overreact to a single statement, op-ed, etc. and ruin the reputation of someone with an otherwise distinguished career. Look what happened to poor Charlie Sheen.Attorney Andynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-61366249990833916212011-04-17T23:51:55.792-04:002011-04-17T23:51:55.792-04:00The whole thing is so over the top, overblown, and...The whole thing is so over the top, overblown, and please, people, get some sense of humor. Lazar G is/was an icon, and we shared residency...he was true blue, honest to the core, and dedicated his life to surgery, his patients, and his intact family. A Julius Jacobson Distinguished Award winner, he was taken out by the establishment at American College of Surgeons on Palm Sunday, at an "emergency meeting". He took the death sentence as Editor and President Elect (the Vice President, a WOMAN) moves into president elect, took it quietly...I would have fired back. What he wrote is not "offensive", OK, his wife should have read it and said, "Um...Lazar, this is inappropriate for you"....but no, he printed it. It is not sexist, racist, homophobic, unnatural or really weird...it is under the cover kidding, but backed up by REAL articles in REAL journals. So...up he goes on the Cross...<br />and I for one will speak up before the cock crows at dawn. I have written him and my FACS pals.Dr. John Baldwin,FACS..Combat Surgeon, VietNam, UCSFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-83981126462235523222011-04-17T23:28:38.980-04:002011-04-17T23:28:38.980-04:00I'd just heard from a friend about Dr Greenfie...I'd just heard from a friend about Dr Greenfield's firing, and, not having heard of this bruhaha, I googled it. And your article came up. Thanks for the info and the links, and for the opportunity to say hello after a very long absence.<br /><br /> Hello.Sid Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14182853083503404098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2760353953251845523.post-47351665836674373302011-04-17T21:23:13.157-04:002011-04-17T21:23:13.157-04:00Just got word that Dr G got canned. Fitting end to...Just got word that Dr G got canned. Fitting end to this fiasco. Hopefully the College will move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com